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OS 10.5 (Leopard compatibility) with Stitcher?

 
n°9669
jobes
Posted on 10-28-2007 at 01:41:30 PM  profilanswer
 

hi, just wondered if any mac users have been brave enough to upgrade to 10.5 yet, and have used stitcher with it?
 
I'm running 5.6.1U, and would be grateful for some feedback before installed leopard on my main workstation
 
thanks

n°9676
maple
Posted on 10-30-2007 at 07:55:17 AM  profilanswer
 

hi,
my initial tests seemed to work but i have not fully tested it yet.
Will let you know.
Mark

n°9727
pfurno
nom
Posted on 11-04-2007 at 06:23:41 PM  profilanswer
 

jobes wrote :

hi, just wondered if any mac users have been brave enough to upgrade to 10.5 yet, and have used stitcher with it?
 
I'm running 5.6.1U, and would be grateful for some feedback before installed leopard on my main workstation
 
thanks


 
I don't know if I was brave enough or fool enough to do so, but I did it.
And ... it doesn't work when I try to render the stitched picture ! Stitcher is shut off, without further damage to other applications.
 
I just sent a request on that subjet to Realviz today.
Hope they have some clue.


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Patrick
n°9737
thomasrath​bone
Posted on 11-05-2007 at 04:43:00 AM  profilanswer
 

I have 10.5 on a MacBook Pro (Intel) and a Power PC G5.  5.6.0 seems to work on the MBP but not at all on the G5.

n°9747
davidww
Posted on 11-05-2007 at 08:38:55 PM  profilanswer
 

I have an Intel Core Duo with 2GB of RAM. Once I read that the APIs in Leopard 10.5 are the same as they are on Tiger 10.4, I felt it was safe to upgrade. Leopard is on the main drive; fortunately, I kept a "pure" (nothing 3rd party, no apps) copy of 10.4 on the attached Firewire drive. Once I started running into problems with Leopard, I installed Stitcher 5.5.4 on the Firewire drive to do a fair comparison with the original copy running under Leopard. To keep things consistent, I checked the ability to stitch with a set of old test images of my back yard that I knew worked. I tested rendering ability with the resulting .rzs file and with the .rzs file I made from the same images about a year ago. Here's what I've found:
 

  • Successfully auto-stitches complete .rzs files -- a cube from the complete set and a cylinder from a subset of the pictures;
  • Attempt to render a cylindrical QTVR from any complete .rsz file produces the usual progress bars that proceed to 99%, stop for a second, then disappear. Message: "Error during file save. Check that Quicktime Player is not open." (It wasn't.) Checked with morph and linear settings. No output file.
  • Attempt to render a cubic QTVR from any complete .rsz file produces the usual progress bars that proceed to 99% for all sides and overall, then stop for a second and disappear. Message: none.  Checked with morph and linear settings. No output file.
  • Attempt to write cubic images produced a full set that appeared alright. The attempt to convert these into a QTVR produced a progress dialogue that showed activity through all six sides until the 99% mark was reached and the dialogue closed. No output file.
  • Every attempt to produce Pure Player files was successful.


I'm not a developer, but I'd have to guess that the issue is a change in the way that Leopard and/or Stitcher interact with Quicktime. Where do we go from here?
 
Thanks to all who have provided help in the past.
 
David
 

n°9762
pfurno
nom
Posted on 11-07-2007 at 07:57:33 PM  profilanswer
 

pfurno wrote :


 
I don't know if I was brave enough or fool enough to do so, but I did it.
And ... it doesn't work when I try to render the stitched picture ! Stitcher is shut off, without further damage to other applications.
 
I just sent a request on that subjet to Realviz today.
Hope they have some clue.


 
The answer from Realviz is :  
"Leopard is not supported by Stitcher, and Realviz products in general.
It will be within a few weeks"
So the choice is : go back to Tiger or forget Stitcher for a while ...


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Patrick
n°9763
davidww
Posted on 11-07-2007 at 08:36:06 PM  profilanswer
 

Going back is an unbelievable amount of work and days of hair-tearing hassle -- I did it years ago and I can only assume that the complexity of OS X would make it worse.  
 
If you don't have one already, get an extra drive and install Tiger on a 10GB partition along with Stitcher and Photoshop. Then you can boot into that and keep working. The remainder of the drive can be your Time Machine space when you're in Leopard. I already had the drive set up with Tiger (for maintenance purposes, not wishing to spend 1/2 hour waiting for the machine to boot from DVD), so this is what I've done -- booting back and forth is a bit of a nuisance but far preferable to going back.
 
David

n°9797
pfurno
nom
Posted on 11-14-2007 at 02:40:12 PM  profilanswer
 

davidww wrote :

Going back is an unbelievable amount of work and days of hair-tearing hassle -- I did it years ago and I can only assume that the complexity of OS X would make it worse.  
 
If you don't have one already, get an extra drive and install Tiger on a 10GB partition along with Stitcher and Photoshop. Then you can boot into that and keep working. The remainder of the drive can be your Time Machine space when you're in Leopard. I already had the drive set up with Tiger (for maintenance purposes, not wishing to spend 1/2 hour waiting for the machine to boot from DVD), so this is what I've done -- booting back and forth is a bit of a nuisance but far preferable to going back.
 
David


Thank you David.
As I have an extra drive, I will follow your advice... if I find some time.
Maybe the time I find it, the compatible version of Leopard will be downloadable.
The estimated time from Realviz is one month


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Patrick
n°9808
davidww
Posted on 11-15-2007 at 05:34:47 PM  profilanswer
 

For what it's worth, sent the text of my experimenting to Realviz and got the response that Stitcher shouldn't work when run from an external drive. However, my setup (Stitcher and 10.4.9 on a Firewire drive) seems to be fine. Booting from 10.5 to 10.4 isn't that much of a hassle and all of my project files are on the Leopard drive, so they get Time Machined as soon as I boot back to Leopard.
 
I hope the time estimate for an upgrade is accurate. The upgrade to Intel compatibility seemed to take forever (but to be fair to Realviz, many of my Photoshop plug-ins still are not Intel-compatible, which I think is very unfair). I suppose this will also require an upgrade to 5.6.
 
David


Message edited by davidww on 11-15-2007 at 05:35:38 PM
n°9845
jobes
Posted on 11-29-2007 at 03:57:47 PM  profilanswer
 

i'm hoping for an upgrade before christmas. till then i will partition my macbook pro HD and jump back into tiger for extended stitcher sessions. as long as it's resolved fairly quickly i'll be happy :)

n°9942
Mark Blant​on
Posted on 12-18-2007 at 06:35:58 PM  profilanswer
 

jobes wrote :

hi, just wondered if any mac users have been brave enough to upgrade to 10.5 yet, and have used stitcher with it?
 
I'm running 5.6.1U, and would be grateful for some feedback before installed leopard on my main workstation
 
thanks


 
 
Hey Leopard users!
 
 
     Here is what Ron, our support guyin the US says about Leopard.
 
 
 
So far the problems that I've seen under Leopard have been taken care of by removing preferences.  Here are the instructions, don't forget to restart afterward:
 
Quit Stitcher
Open a finder and go to Applications\REALVIZ\Stitcher Unlimited 5.6
directory
Right-click on the StitcherUnlimited.app binary
Choose "Show package content"
Open the Content folder
Open the MacOS folder
 
Delete these 2 files:
 
StitcherUnlimited.uipref
StitcherUnlimitedPreferences
 
Close the finder and run again Stitcher


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Mark Blanton
Sales Manager of the Americas
Digital Imaging
REALVIZ SA
n°9945
davidww
Posted on 12-18-2007 at 10:24:50 PM  profilanswer
 

WooHoo!  
 
Works for 5.5.4, at least on one quick assembly-&-cubic-render using the collection of test images from my post above. Good times.
 
Removal of the files does de-activate Stitcher, so I hope Realviz' servers are braced for a slew of activations.


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David Weatherston
Toronto, Ontario
n°9946
jobes
Posted on 12-19-2007 at 12:19:52 AM  profilanswer
 

excellent
 
works for me on a first test. good news for the festivities!

n°9963
Sam Rohn
Posted on 12-20-2007 at 10:50:27 AM  profilanswer
 

excellent !
 
thanks for passing this on mark, seems to be working fine with leopard 10.5.1 & RVSTU 5.5.4, allowing me to render stitched files with no crashes -
 
thanks again -


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Sam Rohn :: Location Scout :: Virtual Tours :: 360 Degree Panoramas :: New York City
n°9982
jotjot
Posted on 12-24-2007 at 03:03:37 PM  profilanswer
 

@Marc Blanton:  
On a G5 I can not confirm that your solution works. Stitcher 5.6.2U still crashes when it renders a panorama :-/ I am disappointed that Realviz still did not figure this out.  
 
On the same G5 Stitcher 5.5U works like a charm (but no HDR support)!


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