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n°9529
gailc
Posted on 10-10-2007 at 05:17:59 PM  profilanswer
 


I have been successful with one folder, just matching the numbers for each of the 3 different exposure level.
ie: folder B has 24 images at the mid range exposure, folder A has 24 images at the darker range, and folder C has 24 images of the bright exposures. Image #1 in folder A I also use #1 for folder B & C. So, they all end up "matching up" for the pano.
 
I'm fairly new at stitching an entire cylindrical image using nadir and zenith.
How can I make sure the zenith and nadir shots match up for the rest of my pano?
 
Thank you for any help.
 
Gail
 
 

n°9545
Jim Scott
Posted on 10-12-2007 at 07:29:02 AM  profilanswer
 

Hi Gail!
 
I'm not understanding the nature of your question.
 
A cylinder projection will not have a zenith/nadir shot, only cubic or sphericals would have this type of shot - perhaps you were refering to the latter file types instead?
 
Assuming you are talking about cubical/spherical projections...
 
You mention you were successful with one folder working properly, I do not see why the zenith & nadir should not work for the other folders as well - but you do not indicate you actually had a problem with them.
 
Also would you describe what your shooting schedule is (i.e. number of rows and number of images in each row, plus the zenith & nadir shots); the camera body and focal length of the lens you are using.

n°9547
gailc
Posted on 10-12-2007 at 06:30:12 PM  profilanswer
 

Thank you for your response. And...I WAS referring to sperical. (sry)
I shot 3 rows with 72 shots in each. (accounting for 3 different exposures)
18mm with Nikon DX 18-135 lens
 
 I had shot (handheld) the zenith/nadir but when I went to stitch them they didn't match up properly. As you can tell I am fairly new at this, so I'm assuming the problem lies with my hand holding the camera inproperly.  
 
Can you tell me (while I have your welcomed attention) how I can zoom OUT with stitcher express? It would be helpful to see more of the "whole" picture when stitching.  
 
Thank you.

n°9550
Jim Scott
Posted on 10-13-2007 at 12:01:44 PM  profilanswer
 

Hi Gail!
 
I use Stitcher 5.5/5.6 so some of the following might be off base for Express...
 
Let's start with the Zoom in/out question:
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Hold down the CommandKey while the mouse pointer is in the stitching window, then click and drag up/down to zoom in/out.
 
 
Patching the zenith/nadir shot:
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I just checked the feature set chart on the Realviz site and apparently Express does not generate cubical output (i.e. cubic faces - imagine the six sides of a cube). This is the output type that is normally used to fix these holes because cubical projections offer far less distortion, compared to spherical, in the zenith/nadir - and so makes for easy patching in Photoshop.
 
Possibly you could manually stitch these images into place. If this does not work then following are some alternate ideas...
 
Solution #1:
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Upgrade to Stitcher Unlimited (possibly an expensive route for your budget). Unlimited has this cubical render capability and the ability to convert among various projection types.
 
Solution #2:
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Get a "utility" program that can convert from spherical to cubical projection (and vice versa), as well as render QTVRs from these projections. A cheaper alternative for this precise need.
 
If you are a Mac user I would highly recommend purchasing "CubicConverter" from ClickHere Design http://www.clickheredesign.com/software/
 
If you are a Windows user I would browse the possiblities here. Look under "Converters for QuickTime VR" about 3/4's way down the page.
 
 
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Separately:
 
For an 18mm DX lens you seem to be taking more pictures than necessary. The following shooting schedule for this focal length will work well in Stitcher:
(3) rows of ten images (+45/0/-45) - plus the zenith and nadir shots.
 
Using your (3) bracket scheme that would make just 30 shots per row - far less overhead in the shooting, storage, and stitching/rendering than your current 72 per row. There will be no reduction in output quality or resolution and make things much easier for you.
 
Just a thought.


Message edited by Jim Scott on 10-13-2007 at 12:24:20 PM
n°9555
gail
Posted on 10-13-2007 at 10:27:44 PM  profilanswer
 

Hi Jim,
Thank you!! What a thorough answer! I appreciate the time and effort you put forth to help me out.
I will definitely check out the site regarding the cubic converter. I will also use your advice and cut down on my shots.
 
Thank you.
Gail


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